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Journal Entry: Mon Jun 22, 2009, 10:41 PM
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As I understand this is something of a burning hot topic and that every one and their pet congressmen have their own ideas about what is right. And I think it’s time that I make my stand point perfectly clear. Understand that this journal entry is going to become something of long winded rant that may indeed offend your tender sensibilities. If you do not want to possibly be offended then I suggest that you stop reading I have no intention of pulling punches for any one.

So what got me riled up on this beaten to death topic?

This:

…Are you kidding me? ‘ Pro life because murder shouldn’t be a choice ’

Well that is all well and good and I am sure that every one is Pro life I mean no one want’s to die or be killed or murdered. I could easily get behind that. But Pro livers aren’t talking about adult or even fully developed lives. They are talking about a collection of parasitic cells that could not live outside of their host’s body. I know that we have this whole commission that handles truth in advertising and labeling so why aren’t Pro Lifer’s made to make their title more clear they are not Pro Life they are Pro Fetus. Most of the Pro Life people I have been preached at by are Conservative Male and Christian. Conservatives deny the rites of people to be happy if it doesn’t fit what they believe to be moral, often going to or screaming for war and bloodshed. Men can never fully understand have to deal with the social repercussions of having children never mind the pain and suffering that choice making can cause. Christians believe all life to be sacred so long as the child becomes Christian isn’t gay, and lives by what the ideals that they believe and preach to be true.

If you are any of these things and you don’t believe what I say is true then understand that what I am talking about is the majority of the ones that I have been howled at by. But I have to ask you some questions. What is the political stand of Conservatives on the war, on gay marriages, abortion or even in more extreme cases women’s rights? Can a man get pregnant from a rape, will his life ever be in danger from a pregnancy gone wrong, will he ever become pregnant and then have the woman leave him destitute? What is the Christian stand point on contraceptives, on birth outside of marriage, on gays and worshipers of other gods?

Clearly I stand under the Pro Choice category and not the Pro Fetus one. I personally do not believe that fetus is fully alive until it can live outside of the host organism. Until that point it is a parasitic collection of cells that depends on its host for substance. In fact the nervous system of a fetus is not developed enough control any major movements until sometime within 16-25 weeks after fertilization of the egg. That’s what including the forth month and into the fifth before it’s developed a semi working brain and ability to possibly feel pain? Most abortions occur within the first 12 weeks of the pregnancy long before the fetus has developed a full nervous system meaning it could not live outside of it’s host’s body or have any reaction at all for those of you that are worried about causing the parasitic life any kind of undue stress or suffering. In other words it can not feel anything.

Yes, I am Pro Choice, however I also think that Abortion should not be taken lightly nor should it be used as some kind of birth control for people that just want to screw around all the time. I think in that case both the mother and father of the child wanted or not need to take responsibility for the life or at least put it up for adoption. One can not simply blame the mother for being loose or whorish after all it takes two to make a child unless and angel or what have you comes down and places a kiss on the virgin girl’s stomach in order to bring about the next Jim-Bob the son of God.

I do not believe and any victim of rape molestation or other forced method of pregnancy should be forced to carry the parasite to full term once she has been rescued from her trauma and pain.

I do not believe that at any time should a woman be forced to carry a fetus to term that has no chance of survival outside of the womb, this includes things like Anencephaly,
Spina Bifida, Encephalocele among other defects.

I do not believe that a woman should be forced to risk her life in order to carry a fetus to full term. The fetus is not a full person no one knows this organism that is not yet a child no one has befriended held it while it cried or kissed it yet unlike the mother who has impacted many lives and would leave untold numbers of survivors if she were killed.

I am Pro Choice not Pro Fetus. I will never be Pro Fetus. But if you must be Pro Fetus then at least have the honesty to call yourself just that and not Pro Life. Because in truth the only people that are not Pro Life are either Suicidal or Homicidal. Though if I wanted to be totally technical I guess that would make them Pro Choice and those that want to be able to chose abortion Pro Freedom of Bodily Function.

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Now, I am a Christian, and, yes, it’s pretty wrong for you to generalize the entire Christian population by only the ones you've met. I personally don’t want a bunch of dumb fuck kids running around being raised by a mother who, doesn't *really* raise them properly, and probably abuses or just, never disciplines them because she doesn't want them in the first place. God knows the worlds already full of a bunch of dumb assholes that it’s much better off without, BUT, on the other hand, I don’t think women, or men, should be allowed to continuously fuck each other unsafely without any consequence. Rape, is different, if you were raped, and got pregnant, by all means abort that sucker, because that’s just not fair. But I really don’t think abortion should be allowed to turn into how we treat colds, we catch them and then just get rid of them. If our generation doesn't learn the hard way to keep their damn legs closed or practice safe sex at least, then we'll be dealing with bigger problems such as diseases spreading like wild fire and perhaps eventually rape itself becoming less frowned upon. To err is human, yes, but to become ridiculously out of control to the point were the only difference between humans and dogs who commonly have sex with everything that moves(and some things that don’t), will be that humans get more sexually transmitted diseases than dogs, and, dogs don’t have sweat glands. Its amazing how, you have to have a license to catch a fish, but any dumb fuck can have a baby. Personally, I’d think, that if you have an abortion twice due to circumstances that you could indeed control, than they should just neuter you and prevent you from ever having the chance of breeding more dumb assholes that will just do the same thing.

Generally, I am pro-choice but,I really think there should be punishments invovled....Like, burning at the stake, or, death by koala bears.

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Please note that I was generalizing by the ones that have accosted me and screamed at me over the subject of one needing to be Pro Life. That was reason I left questions open. Personally I am really laid back and I think every one has the right to believe in what ever they want so long as they do not endanger or harm any one else or brutally convert any one. I know not all Christian/Catholics are unreasonable some can be nice, heck you're a cool person to talk to, and you do have some really good ideas.

I am all for willing sterilization, as in having a vasectomy or having your tubes tied. This world is highly crowed and honestly we don't need to keep breading as out of control as we have been. The problem is lack of education and lack of morals. Even I think we need to as a people take a look at what we are teaching our kids. One of the major problems is simply that 'sex sells'. As I stated I do not believe that Abortion should ever just be used as birth control. However to have a government or a religion regulate it which seems to be where the problem stems from is a dangerous prospect that starts to infringe on the rights of the woman who trapped with the growth inside of her. I mean what if she is not part of the religion that lobbied to get it removed? Does that mean she needs to suffer through it all because it offends beliefs that are not her own? In the end it needs to be the choice of the woman it's growing in.

In an ideal world that choice would be made with total responsibility and with best education that could be provided. I do not think any one that has the procedure done needs to be hounded ridiculed or ostracized after all unless you are that person you have no idea what has happened in their life.

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Gah, journal's not showing up. Anyway, I'm not as much of a conventional moralist. Terminating a fetus has few real consequences and it's effect on the present is minimal, so long as it was by the mother's choice.

People who say "what if YOU were aborted" are confusing "what if" with "what is".
Don't flame me for responding to a political topic. After all, ask a silly question...

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Well honestly you and I have the same felling about the topic. It was just that I saw some one with a stamp that said ';Pro Life because murder shouldn't be a choice' and honestly if the stamp was made by a woman I would still frown on it but it was made by a man, as in some one that will never have to ever consider or worry about needing the procedure done. In his mind life started at conception and that it needed to be protected at all cost there by removing the rights of the woman it was growing in.

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I'm also Pro-choice.

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:nods: when all is said and done it should still be a woman's choice. And like I said pro lifers are not pro life they are pro fetus.

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I'm in between. I think once the little guy in there has a heartbeat, it's technically, a life, even though yes, until like 25 weeks it can't survive outside of me. BUT, if we are going to pass legislation on a woman's choice to carry, then we have to look into sexual education, safe sex, abstinence education and all of the ramifications of happy fun tiems between the sheets (or across a table, etc.) and how to deal with them. The problem with abortions is that they are used as birth control (OMG I GOT PREGGERS I DON'T WANT THE STRETCHMARKS BAWWWW) and not in cases of rape, molestation, or serious medical conditions of mother or fetus.

It should boil down to personal choice, but that choice should be a fully-educated one, and it should be one that is made by both genetic donors of said material.

(and that also means we need a reform in child support laws too - WTF, how can a man provide for said kids if they take away the license? DUHHHHHHHH - and if the mother of said kid on CS won't work, or is on the dole, then NO SUPPORT RAWR. Seriously. 65 bucks of Pete's pay a month goes to that whore and bastard, and that's money that is taken away from Walter. Even my uber feminist aunt says it's wrong.)

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As sad as it is a person that is more concerned with their body's appearance is clearly mentally unfit for parent hood and probably should be spayed. Yes I said it spayed, fixed, have their damned tubes tied. I am all for voluntary sterilization. I do agree on increasing sexual education, safe sex, and abstinence and the possible consequences that can come about from sex. Teen aged pregnancy is still a problem in this country and pregnancy in those years can be highly problematic for mother and child. Not every teen aged abortion is done for the right reason but I'm not going to hold it totally against them at 14-16 how can they support the growing life? (But I will point a finger at the parents and ask them what the fuck were you doing when you let this happen haven't you instilled any kind of values at all into your kids?)

( ZOMG! Don't get me started on child support laws, that whole system needs to have it's head removed from it's ass it's bowels flushed. My sympathy to any one abused by that corrupt system. )

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ROFL YES! totally. If you're more concerned about what pregnancy will do to your body, don't have kids. EVER. Get them tied. XD

(I got mine tied, for health reasons!)

Hell, I know some people my age that shouldn't have kids, EVER.

Walt will be highly edumicated on that whole CS fiasco and the value of either putting on a condom or keeping it in his pants. XD

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Red, you're one of the good parent's out there and I can't picture little Walt ever turning into some kind of man slut. And yeah some people should never be allowed to spawn :shudder: Ever.

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